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Old Mar 04, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35   #1
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Default Most Efficient IW Build

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9 Domination
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4 Fast Cast


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Distortion
Illusion of Haste
Plague Touch
Blackout
Ether Feast
Energy Tap or Spirit of Failure
Rez Sig

Put on IW. Distortion/ Spirit of Failure to tank and gain energy. Illusion of Haste to chase people down, once it ends cripple people by using Plague Touch or if nobody is nearby just cast IoH again to start running again. Blackout to pwn your targets. Ether Feast for HP.

This is based on another popular IW build I found earlier with slight tweaks so credit is not 100% mine for this one.

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Old Mar 04, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15   #2
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No attack speed buff...
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Old Mar 04, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12   #3
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No attack speed buff...
What's your point? I really don't like people who are so narrow minded. Not everything has to have X skill following it to be effective.
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Old Mar 04, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14   #4
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I've tried an IW with Balthazar's Aura... that was some nice damage
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 02:11 AM // 02:11   #5
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now that plague sendind is 1 sec cast now can b good add
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40   #6
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What's your point? I really don't like people who are so narrow minded. Not everything has to have X skill following it to be effective.
43 damage per second is better than 32.33082707 damage per second.
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53   #7
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Screw Illusion of Haste and take Symp Visage, and perhaps Imagined Burden if you really want.
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Old Mar 07, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42   #8
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i think me/w is best for iw

with flurry for 33% more dmg and healing sig and some defencive stances
seems to work for me
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Old Mar 08, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #9
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What's your point? I really don't like people who are so narrow minded. Not everything has to have X skill following it to be effective.
Not necessarily narrow-mindedness when you are claiming a build to be the most efficient and someone suggests something that simply makes it not the most efficient

The build is still quite effective but an attack speed buff would make it moreso
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38   #10
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I'd really, really look at bringing a cover enchant. If I'm PvPing and I see an enchanted mesmer running around with a sword the first thing I'll do is drain/shatter/strip that enchant and laugh as their sword attacks hit for 2 dmg each. Sympathetic Visage is a great cover for IW.

You also have no backup plan if your IW is removed. You could run around and maybe cripple a target with IoH->Plague Touch, but that's a lot of effort for not much result. You do have blackout, which is nice, but other than that you'll be stuck doing next to nothing while you wait for your IW to recharge.

As others have mentioned, an attack speed boost is nice also, as it significantly boosts your damage output.

The build I typically run with if I feel like playing IW looks something like:
Illusion: 16
Tactics: 12
FastCast: the rest

IW{E}
Flurry
Sympathetic Visage
Deadly Riposte (very nice with the boost it got)
Phantasm / Clumsiness
Distortion
Heal Sig
Res
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32   #11
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Distortion
Tiger's Fury
Disrupting lunge
Brutal strike
Charm animal
Illusion of weakness
Illusionary Weaponary
R sig

80~dps easily, interrupts, can take down most foes in 6 seconds flat.
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 08:42 AM // 08:42   #12
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Needs more cover enchant
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 08:50 AM // 08:50   #13
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For all those complaining about Flurry, Flurry is very inefficient and is the main reason why IW mesmers run out of energy.
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21   #14
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My build lacks a cover enc and slow as it relies on support for these aspects. Even if they disenchant, they only have 6 seconds to do it (assuming it is not interrupted)
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #15
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You're assuming that they wont have a monk - a guardian will ruin the pets damage and a shatter will ruin yours - and then what are you left with?
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44   #16
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For all those complaining about Flurry, Flurry is very inefficient and is the main reason why IW mesmers run out of energy.
You do 300-400 less damage over 30 seconds without an IAS skill. Shall you run frenzy instead?
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53   #17
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Ah, yes...to all you IW mesmers out there: Please run Frenzy so I can kill you even faster...

To be honest, IW is not that good of a skill...it allows you to beat people fast if they are unprepared. More often, if I'm attacked by an IW, I find that the IW mesmer is less prepared for me (enchantments gone, superior rune making them squishier, Read the Wind, Favorable Winds, spike, dead).

Honestly, if the other team has a decent monk and a mesmer/necro...you're screwed. A smart elly would simply spike you into oblivion in a few seconds.
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #18
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Ah, yes...to all you IW mesmers out there: Please run Frenzy so I can kill you even faster...

To be honest, IW is not that good of a skill...it allows you to beat people fast if they are unprepared. More often, if I'm attacked by an IW, I find that the IW mesmer is less prepared for me (enchantments gone, superior rune making them squishier, Read the Wind, Favorable Winds, spike, dead).

Honestly, if the other team has a decent monk and a mesmer/necro...you're screwed. A smart elly would simply spike you into oblivion in a few seconds.
What is amazing is that some people think like this. Don't get me wrong: An experienced Anything can take out anyone if they have the right amount of skill and tactics. Conversely, if your team has a decent monk, the IW mesmer isnt going to get screwed. Also, not everyone runs ranger spikes in GvG or TA. I agree with no frenzy. That is just stupid. IW IS a great skill because it cant be blocked/evaded and it isnt effected by blind. A lone IW mesmer will go down quickly because people target them as a primary target if they have any idea what they are doing. Why? Because if you play them right they can be extremely effective.
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #19
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Me/W with flurry > All other IW builds anyday.
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Old Mar 15, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49   #20
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You're assuming that they wont have a monk - a guardian will ruin the pets damage and a shatter will ruin yours - and then what are you left with?
So the monk spends 1 second with a guardian, which we can assume will not be interrupted. He still gets hit with the IW as a shatter bounces off a RoF. Monk down 5 energy, 80 hp (me+pet hit once while he casts) and will still die very quickly if their team does not come up with another answer. Meanwhile my team goes for victory as you have a mesmer and a monk try to deal with me...but end up failing. Sure whatever.
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